iPhone 18 Pro vs iPhone 18 Pro Max Hands-On – is it worth upgrading?
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Hey Chaps! What do you think of the 18 Pro's this year??
My first car was $1200. What a time we live in.
itβll obviously be boring for those already with the 16-17 pros, it makes the biggest difference for those with older iphones, weβre at a point where unless you have the disposable income to upgrade every year, itβs worth upgrading every 4-5 years to actually experience a big upgrade.
Thank you for the live demonstration of aperture.
I went from a pro max to a pro, had it for three years or more and liked it but went straight back to a pro max next phone I bought. The extra screen size is handy for videos, maps, slightly bigger keyboard whatever. Had no trouble adjusting back up to the larger phone.
Apple selling colors again
Upgrading from 14pro to 18pro. Also upgrading my AirPods 3 to 5. No I donβt like silicon earplugs thatβs why I chose the regular version. So ready for this Saturday pre order :)
glacier is my favorite this year
Glad to see that adjustable aperture is on both the 18 pro and max. Rumor was it was only on the max. Iβm going pro, same battery life as on the 17 pro max.
Itβs so nice to hear someone who uses actual adverbs
Change of aperture nicely explained. Man i love your content.
this world has become so superficial its insane it feels like im surrounded by artifices
this year pro max has such nice colors so far maybe next year they will add more such as green similar to pco x9pro or scarlet red π₯°π±
Holding out for the air 2 in the spring
Me switching to smaller iPhone 18 pro β
Your pro vs pro max discussion is spot on. Muscle memory is a bugger for me though. I tried using the 17 pro for a week and I just kept dropping the phone constantly. The camera plateau was also always in the way. The narrower screen also makes the typing experience much worse and the ui feels so cramped. I guess Iβll carry a brick in my pocket once again. Battery life better be really impressive.
1:33 I actually do the opposite because I need the big phone because of my big hands lol
Still on my 6 year old iPhone 11 with 73% battery health. Looking to upgrade soon. Not happy with the 100.00 price increase on all phones. I pay cash for my unlocked phone and Apple charges another 30.00 fee for the iPhone 17. I use Mint Mobile.
Itβs different enough for me! Bigger battery, better processor, larger vapor chamber, better camera in low light, able to receive better signal in rural areasβ¦.all I need to upgrade.
Great reviewπ
I don't know about the chip, midrangers now a days are good enough unless you do something different.
Now that iPhone 18 pro max has released , I've decided to hold on to my iPhone 11 pro max ππ
0:06 dayum i'm sure you won't flip your own DUO like this. That hurt my soul..
So I will be getting the iPhone 18 Pro, it will be my first iPhone. Been a pixel user since the pixel 1 and sick of it. The switch is also why I can justify the price, for a minor upgrade it wouldnβt be worth it, but for my first iPhone I wanna go big
πππ the way you listed the updates made it clear
Forget about the Pro models, the regular iPhone 18 could be a beast and thatβs following on from the 17 which is the best cheap flagship so far.
Iβd be upgrading from a 12 Pro Max whose battery is saying send help so an 18 Pro Max would be worth it for me especially since the prices have more or less held in the last five and a half years.
Iβm mesmerized by the Duoβ¦ but realistically Iβm getting the Pro Max
i use iphone xr, if i get 18 pro is it a good upgrade? or should i wait for iphone 20?
No great upgrades, may as well get 17/16/15.
My phone company is giving me $1,024 on a special promotion for my 16 pro max trade in so Iβm getting the 18 pro max. I donβt need it and have even said in the past I wonβt upgrade for a couple more years but only having to pay a small amount i figured why not lol
Upgrading from the 13 Pro Max and Iβm excited π
Upgrading from the 12pro to the 18pro, canβt wait π¬
Is the Pro max being released the same day as the Pro?
Good vid ππ»
Awesome review
I always go for the Pro max, I just really appreciate more real estate. Although form factor wise, the pro is better
Picture looked the same to me on the 17 & 18
So would the new Iphone 18 pro cases fit the 17 pro?
Absolute majority of people wonβt care or actually donβt understand what variable aperture means, as well as actual difference between last year and this year chip. Larger battery - yes, helpful. And should be advertised heavily in combo with larger vapor chamber and a new chip. Otherwise, same phone as 17 pro for the most part.
Funnily enough, the only biggest upgrade for me is the black color over the less than stellar selections from 17 PRO series last year.
will last year case fit to this year iphone 18 pro max? or its slight change
00:07 homeboy is tripping π
Hello bro, I have an iPhone 11 Pro Max that Iβve been using for the last 6 years. I bought it in 2020, and to be honest, itβs starting to feel a bit slow now. The original battery is also down to 74% battery health. Do you think itβs worth replacing the battery through Apple and continuing to use the same phone for another 2 years? Iβm currently running iOS 26.6.1. Iβve also noticed a slight reduction in camera and sound quality over time. Whatβs your honest opinion? Would you recommend replacing the battery and keeping it, or would it be better to upgrade to a newer iPhone?
I've always had the PM but needed a second phone for work so I picked a 17 and it's much easier to hold them my 16PM... I might go for just the Pro this year for my main device.
Is the paint going to chip like last years?
It's not new that the pro has good battery life - the 17 pro battery is amazing and a crazy improvement over the 16 pro. I go through double the charge cycles on my 16 pro compared to the 17 pro both at 100% capacity
Is the weight really a handicap? Is it worth upgrading from the 16 Pro Max to the 18 Pro Max? Thanks
How come the wider apperture f1.48 potrait from the iPhone 18 Pro has sharper background, while iPhone 17 Pro has more blurred background?
I never had an iphone in my entire 37 years on this planet π. I have not ever imagined that others destroyed this gracious phone for fun and durability tests π’. I wish I had this phone before my b-day Dec 3π
I have an XR so if I get an iPhone 18pro max then that would be an upgrade for sure. I can't afford one so it's just a dreamπ
Worth it from a 15 pro to a 18 pro max?
Do love the burgundy colour and also the glacier colour does remind me a bit of sierra blue of the 13 pro series
Isnβt variable aperture only on the 18 pro max?
planning to upgrade from my 16 to an 18 pro!
Iβll be going from an iPhone π² 13 Pro Max to a black iPhone π± 18 Pro with 512Gb of storage. Thanks for the info.
Going to upgrade to the 18 pro max from my 13 pro max. It has been bullet proof
Got a 13 pro max with a batery health at 75% . This year is def worth the upgrade for me
Good explaination of aperature.
Gonna upgrade my 15 to the 18pro in black or burgundy
18 Pro max is the upgrade forme i presently have a 12pro max and i barely gives me half a day
I honestly wish I could wait until next year for a new phone but my 14 pro max isnβt doing that great so on to the 18 pro max I go
I'm considering getting a iPhone SE from 2022 - hate these huge heavy phones!
Still going strong on a iPhone 12 Pro Max 256gb. Only thing struggling is the battery.
I miss the vibrant neon colored phones. Like the iPhone5Cβs.
I have the 15 pro max and this year is the first time I can see upgrades worth upgrading for.
After a days use the extra weight wonβt be noticeable at all.
Keeping my s26 ultra black 512gb and buying the iPhone duo 512gb
That's heavy.
Are the screens brighter?
Going to hold onto the 17 Pro Max for at least another year. Will see what the 19 series brings, unless youβre a tech creator or made of money, literally no need to upgrade annually.
I really don't know which one to get πππ I want the Duo SO MUCH but I also NEED a zoom camera... Why Apple?????
Checking 16 lineup I liked a lot the camera button, I miss it a lot at my 15th and it is one of the few reasons to upgrade the phone. Interesting - during the whole last year the camera button changes was one of the main subjects of the rumors about 18 pro. Now, after release, any review doesn't even mention it like it doesn't exist anymore.
Tbh never been an apple fan, but kudos to you getting the 18..
I'm holding out for the 20 pro max
Thank you for showing how the camera aperture works - very helpful. Great clip!
does closing the diaphragm improve image sharpness?
waiting for iphone 20 next year
I think the pro maxes crossed the 'Heft' threshold for me last year with the 17PM. I have a 17 Pro last year and am going to keep it, other than quite liking the maroon colour there is no reason to upgrade this year, besides orange still rules IMO.
Watching on my oppo find x9 pro and couldn't be happier to have finally made the switch
have the 13 iβm upgrading to the 18pro im pre ordering it saturday
iPhone 18 doesnβt convince me to finally upgrade, Iβm currently using an iPhone XS since it released basically, do you recommend I wait for the iPhone 20/XX to upgrade?
0:50 why does the 17 Pro have more background blur lol?
Iβd love to see some comparisons against older iphones, most people donβt upgrade every year so would be great to see the iphone 18 pro vs the 14 pro, 15 pro and 16 pro Like how big is the upgrade from those devices
As an android person that uses both ios and android. Prefer android. I'd say there are a lot of meaningful upgrades that would warrant me to try. Over 4000 single core score on a phone is insane. Apple needs to design something to compete with dex atlesat a proper desktop mode to dock your iPhone given all that power with a pc like interface.
I love your honesty
Anyone know what storage they're using on the pro and pro max? I'm considering the 1TB option, but there were rumors these SSDs would be QLC rather than TLC NAND
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I was considering the Duo... Only issue is while phones are getting so much more expensive, the warranties backing them are still at one year. With the number of display issues, earpiece issues and more plaguing iPhones, I would expect Apple to better stand behind their products. In my country the Duo costs $3100 to start and apple care only extends the coverage by 1 more year at $500. $3500 USD for 2 years of use (and hopefully a little more?) is a LOT of commitment.
C2 Modem is only in Pro, Pro Max I think uses Qualcomm
This is my last year of using my iPhone 11. It is almost time for me to finally upgrade.
Yes upgrading to the 18pro once I see some battery tests! If it can really go the distance this could be amazing
I want the Duo, but 2 years left on contract, I need to cry
I think the main updates are software related.
For me then a dollar question is, can you record ProRes raw internal on the 2 TB version?
I have a 14 Pro, do we reckon itβs worth me upgrading?
I have a 5 year old Android phone with a failing battery. I switched to Android because I was tired of iPhone batteries not lasting the length of my contract. The 18 ProMax seems like a great way to return to the Apple fold.
Iβm using 16 pro max and still donβt feel left out
in 1:11 what game were you playing
Very good video thx 4 that πππ Always had Android S24 Ultra atm but I might switch to Apple 4 the first time and i was thinking about the pro but because I mostly watch YouTube so the Max should be the better option if not using a iPad or Mac when I am away from home.
Thanks, Tom. As a 17 Pro Max user, I do consider switching to the 18 Pro 512gb this year. Will wait for the reviews to see if its worth it.
Wife wants to go from 16 pro max to 18 Pro Max in Burgundy. Iβm considering going from 17 Pro to Duo.
This phone is an overkill. Very expensive while most of its features are rarely needed in day-to-day life. It needs a real pro user.
*What do you think is the charging capacity of this year's iPhone 18 Pro Max? Is it really worth upgrading?*
I'm still rocking my regular iPhone 12. Maybe it is time to upgrade.
Does the pixel flagship have a vapor chamber?
Why no ESIM For UK π¬π§ Apple should give customers the option to choose: All ESIM or With Sim Tray
i am cerious on what is the maxium zoom on pro 18 compared to pro 17...?
Silver or Glacier 18 Pro
Iβm going to with the IPhone pro instead of pro max because of the weight.
Is worth update from 16 pro?
Youβd be an amazing racehorse announcer. π
I'm torn on this decision coming from an 11pro max which had a 6.5" display (in between the 6.3" on the 18pro and 6.9" on the pro max)
Good, get pro so I donβt have to fight everyone on October 16 at 5 am
worth remember sim version vs non sim version battery difference
I wasn't going to get the 17pro i had a situation that made me get, anyhow i knew the black was coming so rip to my 17pro... I know its dumb but itll be the last normal iPhone i get, till few years until the folds get better.
Could you please test if there are still lens flares when recording sources of light? It's a deal-breaker for recording concerts
There is no cheaper last years model, apple screwed everyone by upping the price of the current phones right after the show :)
Good summary
I have to say the burgundy is very head turning.
I like your T shirt by the way, where can i get one?
Thatβs a decent light reduction with that variable aperture. It would be nearly equivalent to increasing the shutter speed from 100 to about 800 on a fixed aperture. I wish they did more though; even going to f/4 outdoors will likely not eliminate the need for an ND filter while shooting professional video outside, they shouldβve pushed it to f/8 or f/11 and got rid of all the little stops in between.
what would you say if my 14 pro is giving up. Should i upgrade ?
Not buying until midnight green comes back
Apple needs to focus more on Air 2
That C2 modem would be "maybe" useful in the UK, where the phone signal sucks in so many places
00:51 It's so funny how a wider aperture, specifically f/1.78 produces more background blur than f/1.48
I have 12 pro max , still am happy with itπ
Waiting for iPhone XX with the redesign. My iPhone 15 pro max is still running 90% battery so got another year+ life in it.
They said the battery we get is smaller due to the sim slot. Iβll be sticking with my 17.
Chris Woakes + Stuart Broad
phones have become so advanced that yearly massive leaps are not possible. Tech youtubers should understand that at some point. I dont know what crazy expectations thjey all have as they are buying every phone every year. I will be going from a 13 pro max to 18 pro max and the jump will be big.
I have a standard 16 would it be worth it to upgrade to 18 pro max?
Upgrading from 14 pro, should I buy cheaper 17 pro or the 18 pro?
upgrading to the 18 pro from my 14 pro! quite exited for the camera
The 55m2 flat i own and live in here in europe, around 15 years ago it cost 8x iPhone Duos lmao
After converting from several years of iPhone Pro Max to the Samsung Z Fold8 since its release, there's no way I could ever go back to a "Max" phone. It just feels ridiculous! The Pro is probably the most sensible option
I'm waiting for the Vision Pro 3
I upgrade every two years, thatβs the best way to do it π
The duo is too expensive for me but something I absolutely want to check out in an Apple Store!
This foldable iPhone reminds me of the Huawei Pura X max
small Pro is $2000 in Canada now after tax, just crazy, getting really annoyed at Apple, positive spin can't spin away the phones are heavy, expensive, cheap material, Siri doesn't work at all, even with the 12GB iPhone 17 Pro, the 18 won't magically fix that, really feeling negative to Apple in a way I haven't felt in a long time
well this video made me even more interested in holding out for the s27 ultra πππ
Excited to get the Deep Black iPhone 18 Pro Max next weekend!
The colors π
The Duo is an even bigger waste of money than I expected. I was not expecting a horrible matte interior screen. The interior screen is so bad, youβre better off keeping whatever iPhone you have (better front screen than the Duo) and getting an iPad mini, which has a far better screen than the interior on the Duo - and you save β¬1,800β¦ I honestly donβt know who would buy it, unless you simply have money to burn.
Gemini says the sensor is new and now a stacked sensor. Has there been any mention of this?
Still puzzled why they can't fit a headphone jack on modern phones.
that new burgundy colour is fucking gorgeous!
Since having the Air since it came out I find the Pro Max way too bulky. Im due an upgrade through work in January, I think I'll go for the burgundy Pro.
I heard that it doesnβt include the C2, thatβs only on the Duo
Such small incremental improvements tells me the ceiling for these phones is approaching. Differences are getting too small to even notice now for the average person.
Watching with my iphone 12, waiting for 18 based model but they decided to release next year. sob sob son :(
I'm going for the standard pro this year, assuming those battery life claims are for real!
i am using iphone 13 pro and i will still not upgrade, and only folding phone that make sense to me is actually triple fold , like huawei made. duo and other folding phones still dont have too much bigger screen than the pro max devices.
Does it make sense updating from 15 pro max to 18 pro?
Even though this years colors are neat, honestly Iβm sticking to my 17 pro max til it doesnβt work anymore cause Iβve had no issues with it and I love the cosmic orange. π₯
Iβm waiting for the iPhone mini air with new battery tech ππΌ
Oppo find x9 Ultra or new iPhone?
is it time to change my 13 pro π€ Iβm not sure
What exactly was the problem?
Smaller dynamic island now?
The big elephant in the room is next years 20th anniversary phones. All rumours right now but you'd think Apple have a big redesign planned like they did with the iPhone X. In which case, unless your phone is unusable, you really should wait a year.
I have a 12 and I want that burgundy pro max so bad Iβve never had a big phone but I have small hands is it worth the sacrifice?
The main question; Does it still have that awful lens flare? π
Iβm coming from a 12 mini so anything is an upgrade at this point π
Why is it so hard to chose oneee colorrr π which one would you go with
Better low light photo...most people edit their photo, I really don't see how big a deal is that f1.48 aperture. I think indeed biggest upgrade is the colors π
The problem is thereβs literally not that much different. Iβm still using my iPhone 14 Pro Max I got new when it came out and donβt feel Iβm missing anything. The only reason I watch the apple events is hope for a 32β iMac.
the price is honestly getting hard to justify, my 15 pro still does everything i need. thanks for pointing out the actual problems instead of just hype
Going to get the I phone 18 pro max
I know that some people (not me) seem to absolutely hate this new AI stuff but for people who will be using the new Siri AI in its context-aware personal assistant mode (e.g. "Where did Judy say we were meeting tomorrow?", "How do I get there on public transport and what time will I need to leave?" etc) then judging by various YouTube demos of that sort of stuff in the iOS beta releases I'm thinking that the new A20 chip might be a massively important feature for those users, in fact for me perhaps even effectively (although not literally) a minimum requirement. I say that because the delays I saw in those various YouTube videos before Siri responded to those sorts of questions was in my opinion long enough to be really frustrating to the extent of even putting me off using it. Of course a lot of that slowness could have been down to algorithms not fully optimised, lots of debugging code still in the software etc but if an A20-enabled device shaves even just 30% off those typical response times that would be a massive plus for me and probably get the response times down to a just about acceptable delay for me. (I actually expect the A20 to do a fair bit better than that. Doubling the number of NPU cores should halve the time to first token for a local LLM and Apple is claiming 40% faster GPU performance plus it's also added neural accelerators into each CPU core as well as the ones already in each GPU core so subsequent token generation rates should be a lot higher too.) If all of that comes together then halving the response times for Siri responding vs last years model could be a pretty big deal for some people and for people who didn't upgrade last year the performance improvement is going to be even more dramatic.
I use to like the PLUS AND MAX sizes cause I liked having something big in my hand. But I switched when I got the 15 iPhone and now I feel like if I go back to the MAX Iβm gonna feel it bad
So they increased the prices of last years lineup and then excluded a base level 18 for this year.
Iβm upgrading from 15 pro to 18 pro. Hopefully worth it!
going for 18 pro and ipad mini 8( hope it comes in Oct), better option than getting iphone duo. why no one talks about iphone handoff, finally one sim for multiple devices. Don't have to sign up extra phone/data plans
Whatβs wrong with the iPhone 17 pro battery? I think itβs fine especially with its cooling system
so they skip 18 base...?
i want to buy 18 pro, its time to upgrade my 13 pro.
iβll wait for the 19pro
To be fair I've never had an issue with the 17 Pros battery life, and wouldn't upgrade just for that. But I'm tempted by the camera upgrade and also I like the new sky blue colour - and hopefully the 17 Pros cases will also fit the 18 Pros too. Also my fave previous iPhones that I've used the longest have been the 6 and the 12 Pro - so the next in that x6 series for me is the 18 Pro!
Pro Max glacier or Burgundy
I have a iPhone 15 pro max and Iβm debating on going for the 18 pro or the 18 pro max.. I kinda like the fact the battery life is better on the bigger one but also at the same time it would be nice to be able to text with one hand lol. Iβm so torn. Not sure what to preorder.
Iβm going with the smaller 18 pro in glacier
The Dynamic Island has been An Eyesore since Day 1. The only way to solve it is to Completely Get Rid of it, Not shrink it
Im holding out for the Xiaomi 18 Pro Max (And praying to the phone gods for a UK launch!)
Waiting to see the air 2
Nah I will wait for next year, wanna see what they will really bring, DUO looks nice but every apple first iteration Device I tend to skip all together.
How the price actually moved 2017β2019 β sticker price creeps up in the UK even when the US dollar price stays at $999, mostly FX / VAT positioning. 11 Pro is the first named Pro and the first UK Pro over Β£1,000. 2020 β charger and EarPods gone. Phone price dips Β£50, storage floor doubles. 2021 β another Β£50 cut on the Pro. Cheapest Pro launch of the whole run: Β£949. 2022 β the ugly year. Weak pound + inflation. Pro jumps Β£150 to Β£1,099 even though the US dollar price stayed $999. 2023β2024 β Apple walks the UK Pro back to Β£999 and holds it for two years. Pro Max stays Β£1,199 but the Maxβs cheapest tier becomes 256GB. 2025 β Pro goes to Β£1,099 and the cheap 128GB Pro disappears. Same dollar/pound number, more storage. 2026 (announced 9 Sept 2026) β another Β£100 on both Pro and Pro Max: Β£1,199 / Β£1,299.
To be honest the bokeh produced by the variable aperture thing is unnoticeable/minimal due to the very small physical sensor itself. Only improvements in the iPhone 18 pro are the narrow dynamic distraction, c2 modem , vapor chamber and the new processor. Everything else is less noticeable.
so no satellite 5G then?
Iβm thinking of upgrading to 18pm from 17p? Thoughts! The duo is a good concept phone but not the best functionality for everyday use
I have an Iphone SE first gen and ts is making me droolπ
So they have coming out the regular iPhone 18 and iphone 18 pro max and also the 18 iPhone foldedπ€
I switched from andriod google pixel to the 17 pro this year. Apart from the battery life the phone has disappointed me to me honest. I feel apple hasnβt done enough to keep up and the prices are ridiculous i will be switching back next year if google makes a better phone.
2TB model is double the price of base π³
is it worth to upgrade from 13pro max to 18pro and also is it to trade in my 13pro max 1TB or to just keep it and also buy 18pro as second phone
Been rocking a oneplus for the last 8 years and I still don't wanna upgrade to this LMAO Maybe the next one will be worth the upgrade ;)
Actually ur selfie on the 17 pro looks brighter π
I live in Florida and this vapor chamber is what we really need here because my current 15 pro max dim its screen to minimum after 3 min of outdoor use π« and finally I can get small PRO because it has nice battery. So I was not disappointed with this year iphone lineup at all. And also, I recommend getting the 512GB version because I guess we will have to download a local AI model, which will cost us more than 50GB.
I change mine every year, Iβm going black pro, i find the max too big
Iβm waiting for the 20, Iβm on the 17 pro max. My prediction, the 20 will have to Dynamic Island.
I will get the red pro. Love the photos on the max but it is too big and bulky for my small hands.
Im going from 11 pro max to 18 pro this year. I think I prefer smaller because itβs easier
The price of this phone in our country is banana's
What you mean we donβt upgrading from the 17? π
the problem is you are incredibly handsome i got distracted
Why not titanium?π’
Duo looks cool. Face ID and inferior cam/ video quality is a deal breaker . 18 pro all day .
18 pro glacier for sure!
AGREE with you so sick of using the heavy pro max already they made it heavier , so i am considering going 18 pro for the first time
Not even photographers will be able to see the camera improvements. Iβm fine sticking with last yearβs Pro Max until the redesign next year.
Iβm saving up and getting both. Upgrading from a 13 PM
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With my 40 minutes of screentime, my 2020 iPhone SE's battery lasts for two days.
Is it correct to say βthere isnβt a normal 18β? Surely there will be one early next year?
Do u think upgrading my 14pm to 18pm is worth it? I gotta do something, my battery health is 74% π . Battery life and the camera are the most important ones
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I bought the 17 pro max last year. Iβll probably just hold that for 2 or 3 years and unless Apple comes up with something special Iβll move to Samsung for at least a couple of years
2:46 only on the max, no?
I'll just get the pro given the pro and pro max has the same exact cameras !! That was my only concern,I thought they might give that aperture feature exclusively reserved for the pro max cameras ,but since they are the same ,So I'll save those 15000βΉ and just staright up upgrade the storage for pro
The thing is most of the people who will buy the 18Pro are coming from iPhone 13 or older.
small is the best choice for me. I don't like using phablets.
Apple user since 1999 here (the eggsy imac)β¦and someone that has been using iphone since 2007, i stop upgrading iphone every year since the X as the improvements/upgrades are TOO minimal after that. They just put some fancy words to make it sounded big, marketing tacticsβ¦.its no longer about enjoying stuffs but more about always having the latest. Met a lot of users who has the latest n brag about it but has no idea about the specs and tech inside itβ¦.symbol of status. I prefer apple back when only mac users knowhow to use it
What do you mean you might switch to iPhone 18? Are you not going to choose the Duo?
Better to wait for iPhone 28 pro max. Istg itβll be epic.
0:52 Why does the iPhone 17 Pro have more shallow depth of field than the iPhone 18 Pro at f/1.48?? R U sure you didn't made a mistake with the names?
Me and my 14PM holding on strong
Is Siri AI coming to the uk?
I'm really thinking about upgrading to pro max. Up from my 13 pro max.
π€¦ββοΈStop saying shit just because you got invited by apple. The 17 Pro battery life has always been great. Now because you try to sell the 18 pro suddenly the 17 Pro is bad. Maybe your mouth isβ¦
Iβll get the DUO after the 3rd version. Theyβll perfect it in a couple years
I like it! I will prefer Max over Pro! Maybe 'cause of Battery!
Me coming from the 14 I might do the 18pro
Really annoying the Max doesnβt get C2 in different regions. Donβt even get a choice.
Why aluminum instead of Titanium or Stainless steel if the IPhone 18 pro Max is aluminum yet heavier, I thought all the crying from some users was that the more premium medals were heavier. Result we end up with a cheaper less durable, less premium in Material, heavy & still more expensive, ie no positive tradeoffs.
As I said, smartphones are becoming very expensive, so unfortunately, I have to learn to keep my phone for at least five years. I upgraded from a Galaxy S5 to an S7 Edge after barely two years with the S5. After the S7 Edge, I upgraded again after two years to an S9 Plus, and then from the S9 Plus to an S10 Plus after just one year. I used the S10 Plus for two years before switching to a OnePlus 8T. After that, I went for an S22 Ultra two years later, followed by an S24 Ultra two years after that, and now I have a Galaxy S26 Ultra. I have spent so much money on mobile phones that it is hilarious; therefore, this time I will keep my 512 GB Sky Blue Galaxy S26 Ultra for at least five years, or even until it stops working entirely.
Am currently on a 13 pro max which I have been using since launch, will be upgrading to the iPhone duo
Hi! Is it worth upgrading from the 16 Pro Max to the 18 Pro Max, or should I hold off for another year?
You don't use a case?
I'm on 17pro and will buy 18pro because my daughter wants my 17pro, otherwise I would skip this year lineup alltogether.
Naaah pass i still 17 promax not worth the upgrade plus 1300 eff thatβ¦
Not head turning? The burgundy is the best colour iPhone yet, pre-ordering one Saturday
What color you are planning to buy?
Its so hard to decide between pro and max!!
Im 57 and past wanting all the latest stuff Old and boring and happy with my 65 quid Samsung
Err have you heard of phone cases mate? Literally first thing I do is what a spigen as soon as it comes out the box
Phones feel so boring now and Im not even sure its completely to do with the phones themselves. While phone tech is pretty much at the mature stage even stuff like folding screens isnt really groundbreaking anymore, I think the feeling comes more from a lot of what we use phones for becoming worse e.g. twitter and instagram feeling bad to use, tiktoks gotten worse, facebook is garbage, delivery apps and ride economy apps are expensive to use, google search is worse, AI is everywhere in search results, AI stuff all over youtube and social media, theres probably dozens of other examples of enshittification. I kinda struggle now to imagine a phone that actually excites me in any way or I think is particularly cool, the closest to that are the chinese flagship phones like the xiaomi and oppo.
Imma get one of the 3 phones that came out, I have an iPhone 15 and it overheats to much and its battery hasnβt aged well at all
Did you not bring up the smaller Dynamic Island? Thatβs literally the biggest physical change.
none of the above waiting for the s27 ultra
im thinking geting the 18 pro max (i have now the galaxy s23 ultra 3 years )
In reality what is the performance on day to day use? Specs are one thing, the reality is different especially. People should be asking wow well optimised is iOS 27? The Duo is great but Duo 2 and Duo 3 will be where we start to see some refinements to it hopefully. I hope we see a redesign for iPhone 20 (20th Anniversary)
Just bought a 17. Think I'll be ok for another 3+ years
Even Apple has got a Duo but I am still single π₯²π₯²
Always annoys me when Brit tech reviewers donβt talk about the battery difference between the US and UK. US battery for example is 45hrs video playback, UK is 43hrs video playback. Huge difference.
Iβm very disappointed that the pro max iPhones canβt run two apps vertically being honest
This like iphone 13 pro update the βsβ update to perfect last years phone
Dude, how people manage to handle that maxβs size is beyond me. 1:16 the thing is enormous! Regular Pro is borderline for me.
There's not a single actual update whatosever. Again.
Youβre right this is boring as f but . . . . I have a 12 Pro and itβs time to upgrade. π€£ Hopefully itβs an actual improvement like an actual βlonger battery life (with all the battery upgrades one charge should last nearly a lifetime right? . . Right? . . . Iβm smelling bs right now); reduced over heating, and . . . The camera settings to reduce the size of photos when I want a basic photo. I donβt need a 9 gig photo of a room. Anyway, I need a new phone and I refused to get one until 18 - didnβt see a reason - with this review, I barely do. Low light is good on 12 pro for what I need - Iβm not a pro photographer. So yah, been watching reviews hoping for something exciting but no. . . Still Iβm getting one.
Looking forward.... You will understand why, when you will see my upgrade path: iPhone 11 -> iPhone 16 Pro /broken and refunded 3 months ago/ -> iPhone11 -> iPhone 18 Pro π
First year in a while that I'm holding off with the upgrade, nothing big enough to justify it
Iβm still using my iPhone 13. Planning to get the 18 Pro Max, for me it will gonna be such a ground breaking experience as coming from an older iPhone to a newer one with new features. Waiting for it, much excited. I donβt know much excitement one will get who uses a 16/17 Pro Max, any substantial difference if they can experience by using the 18 Pro Max
Have a broken 13 Pro and watching this π , may upgrade though
Still old tech batteries. Great...
Every feature and every upgrade becomes irrelevant when the most important thing is off, THE PRICE...
Iohone scams soo many ppl it amazing how ppl still believe ita actually different lol
Bonkers that people are just hyper focused on the Duo when there are so many problems with the product line as a whole.... but people are just happy to hold an Apple device I guess regardless of what it costs or what it does.
As an iPhone user for 15 years, Iβm disappointed to see, that the camera on latest iPhone 18 Pro look worse than on 2 years old Xiaomi 15 Ultra..
If I was coming from an iPhone 14 series, I'd get myself an iPhone 18 Pro.
Glacierβ€π
Generally pretty meh all round, but they know they have huge pool of people who have older iphones and when they need a new one, they'll get one of these, which tbh makes me think next time I need a new one, I'll get a pre owned prev gen instead
How To Loot money from people π just copy paste same model
Who else felt the subject in the side by side was better on the 17?
No regular 17? That's why iphone 17 price *increase* in my country. Oh fcuk.
I just want the nanotexture and titanium sides from the Duo on the Pro, sad
I will stick to my 15 pro max and skip the upgrade this year as well
Apple is most premium paint company
βIts 16 grams heavier so its a downgrade, Iβd happily take few hours longer battery life over 16 grams lighter. One of the most important aspects of using a device on busy days is to have a good battery life. Personally I think itβs quite a bit of upgrades better battery life better cooling better performance better cameras thatβs all I could ask for maybe a couple of more colors would be cool but I guess thatβs for next year.
I went to the 17pro down from the promax which had been my default version for years. I find it fits in the pocket better, whilst I havenβt felt it any lesser a device.
People living in west will never understand the importance of bigger vapour chamber For people living in Middle East which has over 42/43 degrees heat for over 8 months of the year, its a pain in the ass whenever you are using your phone outdoors and iPhone screen dims to the point you canβt even see
The exterior looks like cheap boring plastic. Aluminum isnβt as stiff as the titanium body on iPhone 15 Pro. The only tempting feature with iPhone 18 Pro is itβs aperture. So itβs more tempting to stay with my iPhone 15 Pro, which is smaller and more comfy to use, and wait for iPhone 19 Pro next year. Regarding the aperture I assume that that Apple most likely is planning thisβ¦ β’ (sept. 2026) iPhone 18 Pro = aperture on Main lense β’ (sept. 2027) iPhone 19 Pro = aperture on Main lense + Ultra Wide lense β’ (sept. 2028) iPhone 20 Pro = aperture on Main lense + Ultra Wide lense + Tele lense
Looking to upgrade from my 14 pro max to the 18 pro max. Considering my 256gb 14 pro max cost Β£1,319 back in 2022 thanks to Liz Truss Iβm optimistically thinking Iβm getting a Β£20 discount on the 18 pro max!
They should have released an Air 2, the screen size on the Air is 6.5 and was a perfect size, compared to the Pro 6.3/6.9 which are too small and too big
The problem is they are very expensive, you can do far better for less with other brands, with silicon carbon battery; and the 50% more light is stupid - half a stop is very little indeed. And still better on competitors. Your supposed scientific test stopping down by more than one stop was downright misleading. I do wish registers would stop 'reviewing' by comparing iPhones to other iPhones but look at wider competition. Including you, Tom
Itβs all getting a bit boring now because a lot of the people who used to be able to get the pro and pro max are getting out priced now which is a shame
Interesting how nobody is bringing up the π§ chip inside. Very interesting
Yeah I'll just stick with my 17PM.
They aren't boring there for everyone who probably won't have the money for the duo or thinks fold phones are shit anyway.
No more basic model now !!!!
Only the 18 pro has the c2 modem as well. Pro max sticking with Qualcomm
I can't imagine how somebody can switch from Pro Max to Pro. For someone with bigger hand 6.3" screen is just too small.
In reality they are 10 to 20 years ahead in the lab and they choose to drip feed us small boring updates to drain money from us. It's ridiculous
Please comment what Apple AI features us europeans are missing out on at the moment due to Apples fight with EU.?
As a fold 7 user, ive never owned an iphone and apple atill doesn't offer enough for me to switch
iβm also switching to the pro from my 17 pro max. not because any of the features are worth upgrading that soon for, but because i cannot do this giant heavy phone anymore!!
Samsung Galaxy S9 laughing at the corner
Oh wow, 16 grams heavier, better hit the gym. I never understood people who switch phones every year. Personally, I upgrade every 3-4 years, but to each his own. I just don't see the benefit in yearly iterations, so for me going from the 15 pro max (which is still a fantastic machine) to the 18 pro max is absolutely worth it, even if only for the battery and camera upgrade. Here in the Balkans we don't have the cool upgrade plans from mobile operators, like the UK, US or other countries. There is something similar, but it's very shitty, so less frequent upgrades really do make more sense.
It may be boring if youβre going from 17 to 18 but for someone like me going from a 13 Pro to the 18 Pro, it is certainly NOT boring!
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